IFBB cometitions are useless

[sterol]

NPC amature and pro competitions are crap. All you get is a subjective ranking based on favoritism.

Why not award competitors for their specific acheivments? Melvin Anthony got awarded for being the best olympia poser. Why can't the federations come up with similar catagories?

There could be a winner and runner up for each of several catagories, like posing/presentation, muscle mass, definition, symetry etc... each winner and runner-up gets a prize. This is in place of the arbitrary designations of 1st 2nd 3rd, which are currently handed down without explaination of the specific criteria that won the event for the competitors.

This is especially applicable to FBB competitions as the winner is usually not the most outstanding physique, but the most socially acceptable appearance, along with less muscle and definition than those who placed 2nd - 5th.

[Beenaround]

Great Ideas Sterol. Are you going to start the new federation???

[HumanFreakShow300]

...Why not award competitors for their specific acheivments? Melvin Anthony got awarded for being the best olympia poser...There could be a winner and runner up for each of several catagories, like posing/presentation, muscle mass, definition, symetry etc... each winner and runner-up gets a prize. This is in place of the arbitrary designations of 1st 2nd 3rd, which are currently handed down without explaination of the specific criteria that won the event for the competitors...

i think the "specific criteria" is self-explanatory -- the individual with the best overall package wins the show or their weight class. Personally, i am not a fan of the "best poser" award. This is bodybuilding, not dance. Yes, presentation is important, but that is what the mandatory poses are for -- to present those specific bodyparts. The individual posing routines are just that, an individual element, whatever you chose to do in the time alloted is up to you.

Bodybuilding competitions should be judged upon how well each person had built their body, not what damn costume they wear or the props they use or which actual entertainer or nugget of pop-culture they imitate. Additionally, i think things like the posing awards were implemented to allow those not destined to win a chance to score some loot. Are there politics involved? More than likely -- Yes! However, that's a given going in, the field otherwise is pretty much level. Each competitor should bust their butt between shows to bring to the table the best package, not just the ever popular "best i've ever been" package, but best in show.

Finally, the laws of probability do not seem to lend themselves well to bodybuilding; The more shows that an individual enters does not guarantee more wins (or even high placings). Maybe some of them should take a little more time between shows to refine their bodies as opposed to entering as many shows as possible.


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[sterol]

i think the "specific criteria" is self-explanatory -- the individual with the best overall package wins the show or their weight class. Personally, i am not a fan of the "best poser" award. This is bodybuilding, not dance. Yes, presentation is important, but that is what the mandatory poses are for -- to present those specific bodyparts. The individual posing routines are just that, an individual element, whatever you chose to do in the time alloted is up to you.

Bodybuilding competitions should be judged upon how well each person had built their body, not what damn costume they wear or the props they use or which actual entertainer or nugget of pop-culture they imitate. Additionally, i think things like the posing awards were implemented to allow those not destined to win a chance to score some loot. Are there politics involved? More than likely -- Yes! However, that's a given going in, the field otherwise is pretty much level. Each competitor should bust their butt between shows to bring to the table the best package, not just the ever popular "best i've ever been" package, but best in show.

Finally, the laws of probability do not seem to lend themselves well to bodybuilding; The more shows that an individual enters does not guarantee more wins (or even high placings). Maybe some of them should take a little more time between shows to refine their bodies as opposed to entering as many shows as possible.


One.

As you can see, I have no faith in the judging criteria, best package is such a subjective ideal. Case in point; Nationals. What is the trump card exactly? Mass, definition, shape, hardness? the light heavies had no rhyme or reason at all.

LOL- at the laws of probability!! This holds most true for amature figure, some of those chicks don't take a hint do they? Go buy some abs, put that spine somewhere where I can't see it. and peel 10 off that droopy ass!

[HumanFreakShow300]

i do agree that "best package" is very subjective. In terms of individual bodyparts, i would imagine that each muscle should have a certain degree of size, fullness, definition, and of course symmetry all culminating to create a great physique. Is there a particular blueprint? Maybe not, but i think that the judging would have to -- at least to a degree - be based upon each era's current standards. A comparison between a top bodybuilder of twenty years ago to one today would be almost incommensurable. Times change, things change, but all intended competitors basically have the same pool of 'tools' to draw from.

LOL- at the laws of probability!! This holds most true for amature figure, some of those chicks don't take a hint do they? Go buy some abs, put that spine somewhere where I can't see it. and peel 10 off that droopy ass!

Again, i concur. The only thing that i can say is that it goes back to everyone knowing what needs to be done and having the personal discipline required to do it.


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