Is Charles Benner ever going to stop?

[Scott]

Yes i modified the email to blot out the fbb's name but its really sad this guy is so out of touch with reality it isnt even funny!


From: Charles Benner [mailto:charles_benner@hotmail.com]
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 3:51 PM
To: fbb@mindspring.com
Subject: All the best!!

Hi FBB! I apologize for writing again...I'm just writing to lend you
support

and encouragement
towards your
bodybuilding career and business endeavors. I've seen many pictures and
I want to congratulate you on your well deserved
publicity. I absolutely love your physique. You have plenty of
potential
and beauty to match. I know not everyone likes the female muscle
look, but
I am an avid female muscle fan. I'm sure your placings will continue
to improve, so hang in there. I myself am a NPC competitor who has been
blessed
by GOD to go far in the sport, for which I am grateful. I have also
helped
over 200 female competitors with their prep and training including IFBB
fitness pro Karen Walcott in 2004. I know it must be
tough sometimes to prepare for a show when you don't know how to come
in
looking.
The judges unfortunately seem to be so doubleminded about choosing what
they want.
Well take care FBB's name, and all the best to you in your bright future.

Sincerely,
Charles Benner
Willow Grove,Pennsylvania

[Maxt]

Charles Benner? Is he not right mentally?

[len689]

Charles Benner? Is he not right mentally?

That would be a correct assumption. :eek:

[Maxt]

Did he really write all that?

[Melissa&Nancy]

Hey Everyone,

I was reviewing some posts and seen this persons name that has ABSOULUTELY repulsed me. Nancy and I have had SUCH a problem with this "quote un quote" Charles Benner guy. He began writing to me maybe a year or so ago on my aol email. He began with a letter posted here and then began biblical ramps, furthering on with whom he has helped in the industry to turn pro. I eventually had to block him and report him to AOL.

It was funny just months later he did the same to Nancy. Nancy doesnt have a mean bone in her body so she politely MANY times told him to not write her anymore. She inturn had to block him.

I dont quite understand this guys problem or if the name is even a real name as I had a friend of mine who is a cop in Penn look up the name and NO name comes up for driving record license..nothing. So thats wiered!

So I hope guy gets a clue and STOPS harrassing everyone!!!

M

[Scott]

Hey Everyone,

I was reviewing some posts and seen this persons name that has ABSOULUTELY repulsed me. Nancy and I have had SUCH a problem with this "quote un quote" Charles Benner guy. He began writing to me maybe a year or so ago on my aol email. He began with a letter posted here and then began biblical ramps, furthering on with whom he has helped in the industry to turn pro. I eventually had to block him and report him to AOL.

It was funny just months later he did the same to Nancy. Nancy doesnt have a mean bone in her body so she politely MANY times told him to not write her anymore. She inturn had to block him.

I dont quite understand this guys problem or if the name is even a real name as I had a friend of mine who is a cop in Penn look up the name and NO name comes up for driving record license..nothing. So thats wiered!

So I hope guy gets a clue and STOPS harrassing everyone!!!

M

According to a post at muscle mayhem, his first name is Charles but Benner is not his last name. The internet is a platform for this guy to live a non existing life. He thinks he is above the Law, Thats why i think you ladies should take action get the cops involved instead of just threatening too!

[Maxt]

If he says he did the contest prep for over 200 females, one of them would have given him the credit, I'd think? I don't think there is anything wrong with congratulations or offering services but I suspect he is making some false claims?

[herculizaah]

OMG :rolleyes: This guy has been emailing me too, for over a year now, but all he ever talks about is recovering from injuries sustained in a car wreck, and how he plans to be ready to compete in 2005, scratch that, now 2006 (!) haha

[Scott]

OMG :rolleyes: This guy has been emailing me too, for over a year now, but all he ever talks about is recovering from injuries sustained in a car wreck, and how he plans to be ready to compete in 2005, scratch that, now 2006 (!) haha

Hmm this is interesting b/c their was someone impersonating Vickie Nixon on Myspace.com claiming to have been in a car weeck therefore knocking herself out of the Betty Pariso show, which obviously didnt happen! Recently someone showed up on myspace.com impersonating Johanna Dejager a fbb up in Canada. Could we be on to something here folks?

[Maxt]

Might be somebody else?

[Michelle Brent]

Hey Everybody, i now live in Penns. I should write him to have him meet up with me for contest prep advise, bring my husband along in the wings(before getting cops involved)or any body have a suggestion, and then see if the guy even shows up.
If the scenerio pans out I would have my husband take pics of his car(for license, if he even has a car) and pics of him. I doubt he would even show though.

[Scott]

Hey Everybody, i now live in Penns. I should write him to have him meet up with me for contest prep advise, bring my husband along in the wings(before getting cops involved)or any body have a suggestion, and then see if the guy even shows up.
If the scenerio pans out I would have my husband take pics of his car(for license, if he even has a car) and pics of him. I doubt he would even show though.

Good plan but remember he very well could be lurking on this message board beside he refuses to allow anyone to see the real pics of him so i doubt he would take you up on it but you could try!

[Scott]

Might be somebody else?

Sure it easily could be.

[Michelle Brent]

dud, wasn't thinking, he could be any one of thesae other psuedo-names. :eek:

[Scott]

I thought about emailing him and challenging him to a show of his choice. Surely he wouldnt be scared of a guy that is 5'9 155 lbs now would he. haha

[ibarramedia]

I stumble into this thread and i'm like whoa! who the hell is this guy? what's going on here? From what i've read, seems there is a big backstory to this dude. I dunno what's going on here but it sounds kinda strange maybe some of you guys can give us a background as to who he is and what he has been doing or trying to do. One thing i sincerely want to say to the ladies is i hope he doesn't harm any of you because i may be forced to hunt down this guy and pummell him.

[alina]

I saw the title of the thread and I recognized the name, it was in spring I read about him on musclemayhem forum.
I read the letter and it was familiar, then i realized it is exactly the same e-mail, word by word, that he sent me back in spring....
This guy is insane. I am not even in the States, so he could harres me....lol

[Bettina Kadet]

He has been emailing me for a while, has stopped now though...probably due to poor response :D

[BodybuilderBeth]

Upon reading this thread, I had to enclose what he has emailed me as well!!!

Dear Beth,

I hope you would still like to stay in touch. I always like to know there
is a
two way street as far as the desire to stay in contact(smile).
Anything you would like to know about me..never hesitate to ask. Other
than
the fact that we are both PA bodybuilders(lol). I am from a suburb of
Philly
called Willow Grove.

My friend and client Karen Walcott got overlooked seriously at the GNC
though. She went from 120 at 9% bodyfat at the SW to 123 at 5% at the
GNC!!
What a transformation! IFBB pro Susanne Bock was going to retain my
services
for the year but she keeps playing around saying she sent me payment
but
won't tell me how. Crazy huh?

I am good. Training heavy and hard. Can't wait to compete again next
year in
one of the tough NJ/NY national qualifiers. Take care Beth, and I hope
to
hear from you.

All the best,
Charles

[Tre]

First up, thanks for that letter, Beth. EEEEEEEK!

Secondly, I think Scott should be temporarily banned for mentioning the CB name here in the first place. :D

[Figure Babe]

I have been reading topics in this forum for a couple days now and just had to sign up to respond to this thread.
I have also received a few e-mails in the past 6 months or so from this Charles person....very similar writing. Glad to see I am not alone! :rolleyes:

Jill

[tangelamorgan]

I too have received emails from Charles :) Is there anyone who hasn't? I think he must send the exact same email to everyone. I got one a couple of days ago where he talks about the lawsuit from his accident, recovery, and plans to add 10lbs. to compete at the Gold's Classic in 2006. Should we all go to support him :rolleyes:

[pussycat]

This guy makes me laugh the more posts I read from FBB. Glad he's getting busted like this! Just goes to show you how you gotta watch who you talk to in this sport. I wonder what his motives are?

Tre, this is my idea of a real 100% SCHMOE!!!

[jasons805]

Ya there have been a few topics on mayhem, and they seem to say the samething. I would just block his email if he sends again block the new one. If you ignore him I would think he would stop.

[Maxt]

More information: http://www.musclemayhem.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33162

[herculizaah]

Here is a email from Charles Benner, and I quote..." I have just been informed that you have been saying some disparaging remarks about me on GeneX9.com forums. YOU just sent me newsletters" (he was still on my mailing list from my website !) "with recent pictures of you. If you didnt want to stay in touch...why dont you have some guts and say so ? I meant my "support" email to you, and you have to be lured into this false trash about me ? Thanks for nothing. I will still pray for you as Jesus wants me to... even though you are an enemy now" .... Charles Benner

[Mike]

Thankfully he has found Gene's site so maybe he'll stay away from Mayhem. :D

[ibarramedia]

Thankfully he has found Gene's site so maybe he'll stay away from Mayhem. :D


He needs to stay away from here.

[boomerfit2328]

Hi everyone
I just did a google on Charles Benner and this forum came up. I did the google because he wrote to me. And he wrote almost the sames things as what I see he wrote to some of you here. hmmmm...
Well, I am glad I found this out. I'll save myself the headache and do what you all did and block him.
There are all sorts of strange guys out there that are weird when it comes to women who are out there to see.. and we are that.
thanks ladies for being here and talking about what needs to be in the open.
Blessings always
maxine
"fitover50", Bodybuilding.com:cheers:

[westcoast physique]

Hi Everyone,

The same thing just happened to me! I have copied the email he sent to me. Please see below:

Sender's IP Address: 4.175.6.130Message: Hi Melanie! I\'m just writing to lend you support and encouragement towardsyour fitness career and business endeavors. I\'ve seen many pictures and Iwant to congratulate you on your well deserved publicity. I absolutely loveyour physique. You have plenty of potential and beauty to match. I know noteveryone likes the female muscle look, but I am an avid female muscle fan.I\'m sure your placings will continue to improve, so hang in there. I myselfam a NPC competitor who has been blessed by GOD to go far in the sport, forwhich I am grateful. I have also helped over 200 female competitors withtheir prep and training including IFBB fitness pro Karen Walcott in 2004. Iknow it must be tough sometimes to prepare for a show when you don\'t knowhow to come in looking.The judges unfortunately seem to be so doubleminded about choosing what theywant.Well take care Melanie, and all the best to you in your bright future. Sincerely,Charles BennerWillow Grove,Pennsylvania

[Tre]

Wow, he's up to 200 now...not a single one of which will vouch for him or his so-called 'help'.

And, of course, it's always a treat when the GOD card gets played.

[Zennie]

Wow, he's up to 200 now...not a single one of which will vouch for him or his so-called 'help'.

And, of course, it's always a treat when the GOD card gets played.

Tre. I think what you and the others may have missed is his reference to one poster in this thread as "the enemy."

To be frank, I considered this news about his emails as interesting gossip, until I saw that statement. That's brands the man as scary.

[upnorthgirl]

I have recieved emails from this guy as well. Saying the exact same things.
freaky.

JeniB

[westcoast physique]

I have recieved emails from this guy as well. Saying the exact same things.
freaky.

JeniB


I second the "freaky"

ps. Jeni, I didn't get a chance to congratulate you on your win yet, u looked awesome!!! ( I was just watching the DVD of the Nationals)

Mel C

[fbbhubby]

You haven't really arrived til you get a Charles Benner e-mail. It's like an initiation. :D

[JodieB]

Mine when in the delete folder the other day.

Read it, laughed and trashed it.

[fivegrand]

Jeni, I don't know what can be done about it in Canada in terms of the law, but I can put you in touch with a trusted RCMP officer that can give you some pointers (she specializes in this kind of stuff).

For those in the states, "unsolicited e-nnoyance" like this (also known as electronic harassment) has been a felony since January 2006. The Violence Against Women and Department of Justice Reauthorization Act (US Code Section 113) rewrites existing telephone harassment law to define and include "cyberstalking" via the internet; penalties include large fines and two years in prison.

[eseiple]

I have had a bad time with him as well. After a while his emails get nastier and nastier and he gets very unstable. He is mentally not right and hes a freak.

[MsGuns]

and did a search for Charles Benner...I did not know I got that same email a yr or so ago...WOW- Feb 06

From: "Charles Benner"
charles_benner@hotmail.com
To: flexwithdrex@hotmail.com> >>>>
Subject: Support
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 01:53:07 -0500

Hi Drexel! I'm just writing to lend you support and encouragement towards your bodybuilding career and business endeavors. I've seen many pictures andI want to congratulate you on your well deserved publicity. I absolutely love your physique. You have plenty of potential and beauty to match. I know not everyone likes the female musclelook, but I am an avid female muscle fan. I'm sure your placings will continue to improve, so hang in there. I myself am a NPC competitor who has been blessed by GOD to go far in the sport, for which I am grateful. I have also helped over 200 female competitors with their prep and training including IFBB fitness pro Karen Walcott in 2004. I know it must be tough sometimes to prepare for a show when you don't know how to come in looking. The judges unfortunately seem to be so doubleminded about choosing what they want.Well take care Drexel, and all the best to you in your bright future.
Sincerely
Charles Benner
Willow Grove,Pennsylvania....suburb of Philly

Well I read somewhere on somebodies message board that he was banned and how he was harrassing competitors by emailing them after they asked him to stop....so I emailed him about it and this was his response....

I emailed him just this yr- Feb looks like- we were emailing pretty frequent he never once was rude like what im reading:

flexwithdrex@hotmail.com
To: charles_benner@hotmail.com
Subject: RE: Hi!!
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 18:02:48 -0600
Charles,
have you been told by FBB to stop emailing them and you didnt?
Luv,>>>Ms. Guns

his response:

From: "Charles Benner" <charles_benner@hotmail.com>>>
To: flexwithdrex@hotmail.com>>
Subject: RE: Oh gosh...>>
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 19:53:11 -0500>>>>
Hi Drexel!>>>>Well...I see the rumor mill has hit you. Whether it be through your private contacts or Mucle Mayhem or any other hateful,loser GOSSIP boards.

First off...NOBODY tells me what I can and cannot do. I hope your question was out of sincere curiosity because you HEARD something and NOT some sort of indirect demand on your part.

As for your question..there are a certain select...and I mean select group of females and some males for some reason who don't like me so they choose to start false rumors about me,etc. Some things are just flat out made up ideas of who I am. I have been told by some people..that they don't want my mails....and I obliged. If they don't care for my "support"...then that is fine. I don't talk with these people. And the ones that I have found out about or witnessed their gossips about me on the boards...I either confronted them through mail or via the phone. I gave them my number because I take no crap from anyone. Of course..many are cowards..so they stick to just talking about me behind my back or behind the safety of a screen name on a gossip,bb board.

Now..I am in touch with around 500 men and women in the industry. NONE of them have told me to stop mailing them or that my mails are unwanted.

NOW...I am not into the "can he get a hint game"....so if they don't have the heart to tell me..I can't help that. They should just be honest...that is fine with me. Now if you hear that I HARRASS these people or am some sort of "stalker" that is just plain hilarious. Now...most of the people I talk to via e-mail....all are appreciative of my mails. And they mail me back consistently as well. Two way street. I am not saying these people are my friends...no. I would say just a little handful.

If I am trying to "stalk" fbb,fitness, or figure competitors..though I talk to men too...and am not gay....let me lay this out as I always do. How can I be wanting to "get close" to these females as some hateful gossipers have put it...when I am a born again Christian who does not date....is 36 and a VIRGIN by CHOICE....and has no desire to have a family....how could I even possibly have any bad motive at all?!!!!!!

I support people because I care...the mature ones realize it. Hence why I am in touch with so many. I am not saying they all give a darn about me...because I am sure alot of them don't. But they are nice enough to acknowledge my support and kindness. I could care less who is feeding you this garbage..though I know EXACTLY who these people are.
BUT he just wrote me a novel but he doesnt care...LOL...

I will just frgive them and pray for them as Christ wants me to. Now...as for you. If you are having doubts about me..and no longer want my mails and support..and you think for some crazy reason there is some truth to what these gossipers are saying...let me know and I will stop my mails to you. I don't recall ever being rude,foward or any way out of sorts with you personally. Thank you.

I am not always on the pc..as I don't waste my life on there..as many do. If you need to confront me or need to find out if I am REAL..then call my >cell. 267-481-6044. HAS ANYONE EVER CALLED HIM????

This is not to try to gain a friend. Just if you feel you need to confront me...then do it personally to my face. I have invited many to meet in person..but NOBODY has done that. And NO..that is never a threat to anyone. I just feel that is the most mature and man thing to do.
Charles Benner

[MsGuns]

flexwithdrex@hotmail.com
To: charles_benner@hotmail.com
Subject: RE: Oh gosh...
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 11:32:08 -0600
Charles,
I just asked a simple question because I saw your name on a board...I never said you did anything...All you had to do was say no or yes!!!!
Luv,
Ms. Guns

Friday Feb 23rd was the last email I got from him and I didnt respond...
After he wrote me the novel and part II...I was like wow he is crazy...

Hi Drexel,

Sorry for being hostile...but this has been going on for a LONG time with these people. So you must understand my reaction. You have always been nice to me...that is why I ASKED you whether your question was just a sincere question out of mere curiosity because you heard or saw something or if you heard something and were kind of giving me an INDIRECT demand.

When did he ask me this?

So please forgive me. I don't waste time on those loser boards. I did waste 4 months of my life on Mayhem back in early 2004..but that is it. I do have people who have my back and who let me know...from time to time who and what is saying who...just so I know who NOT to associate with when I see them at a show. Nothing has been said about me in a long time on any board.....mostly because it is just a select handful that are the gossipers. Plus 500 plus people through e-mai that I am in touch with in the industry..and all the people I know outside of it....know differently about me.

Who knows him?

But if you saw something recent...by all means...let me know where it is at. If not..that is ok...I really don't have that much time to waste. You don't need to mention any names....I know who they likely are. Plus Christ will deal with them..not me. Though if they have a problem with me...by all means...I always welcome them to seek me out and try to tell me off. Anyway....hope all has been well with you. You can make a decision about me on your own...I am sure you are mature enough for that.
Take care.
Charles

Out of all this Does anyone know Karen Walcott and does she know this guy???

[diggs]

...this is my idea of a real 100% SCHMOE!!!

Wow. This thread is hilarious and terrifying. I'd laugh out loud if I wasn't trying so hard not to vomit.

I prefer to think of him as sub-schmoe, pussycat. The kind of schmoe that gives the rest of us schmoes a bad name. In fact, this guy goes so far beyond schmoe with his schmoetitude, I think we need a new word for it.

Proposed slang for überschmoe:
a) a chucky
b) a benner
c) a benny
d) troll :troll:
e) hagfish

Shall we vote? :domokun: